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Irving vs. Goldhagen |
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In the evening William C., a local chiropractor, drives me over the 26 mile causeway to downtown New Orleans, to the magnificently decorated synagogue in St. Charles Avenue where Daniel Goldhagen is to speak on his book Hitler's Willing Executioners. It came out last May and, of course, my own book Goebbels, Mastermind of the Third Reich was sacrificed by St. Martins Press, to give "Professor" Goldhagen a clear run with his work, as Frank Rich admitted in his syndicated OpEd piece at the time no nasty confrontations on talk shows, etc., with somebody who might really know what he was talking about when it came to the Nazi era. The rotunda is packed with over a thousand listeners, and there is a sprinkling of police outside. A rabbi reads an introduction, while a thin, badly shaven young man, with a gaunt face reminiscent of Key West's HIV-positive population, slouches on a chair at stage-right. This turns out to be Goldhagen. His talk is disappointingly bland delivered without notes in a disconcertingly gentle, laid-back voice, at such a slow and hesitant pace that one wonders whether he suffers perhaps from some chromosome defect that the newspapers have been too polite to mention. Goldhagen utters a ninety minute tirade against the "ordinary Germans" who he claims were fully aware of what was going on, and were willing and indeed eager to make up the firing squads when it came to getting rid of the Jews. As he talks of the zeal with which these "ordinary Germans" rounded up, tortured, mocked and killed their opponents, I think involuntarily of the West Bank, of the Arab children shot down with live ammunition, and of modern prime ministers who send assassins into neighbouring countries armed with nerve-gas syringes to dispose of their opponents. Dr. C. afterwards remarks that he has never before heard so much hatred spewed forth in a House of Worship. The same thought occurs to me: it was undiluted Volksverhetzung, far more ugly than the kind which now earns revisionists and other searchers for the truth hefty prison sentences in Europe. Goldhagen finally rambles to a conclusion mid-sentence, mid-paragraph, in fact mid-lecture for all anybody can tell, since the whole talk is utterly shambolic from start to finish, without starting point, mile-markers, or objective. If he is a lecturer in politics at Harvard, I feel endlessly sorry for his students. One wonders how he got the job; one must ask his father, a long-time benefactor and professor at the university. Goldhagen Jr. probably picked up at least a $20,000 fee for his performance this evening. At question time I get to the microphone, and challenge him:
At this, I can feel the temper of the audience behind me rising. I press on:
The audience are now very restive, as it has dawned on them that I am not a Goldhagen fan.
This generates uproar, but I carry on:
At this there is a sprinkle of applause.
The answer is more verbal Jello from Goldhagen. He is clearly furious to have been accused of "inventing," as he (not I) put it, and he has no real answer to my point that, as he said, the Jews are now "complacent" about the risk of it all happening again. The chairman makes a point of saying that no more questioners will be allowed to "make statements." So it seems I got in not only under their radar, but right under their skin as well.
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| A list of 46 European states and cities which expelled Jews once or more than once from the 11th to the 19th centuries for economic exploitation, monopolizing or "sharp practice." Dates of expulsion are also given. Richard Siegel and Carl Rheins, editors, The Jewish Almanac, N.Y., Bantam Books, 1980; pp. 127-129; reportedly a fuller list of 77 areas from which Jews have been expelled appears in Paul E. Grosser and Edwin G. Halperin, Anti-Semitism: Causes and Effects. | ||||
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"One of the tactics deniers use to achieve their ends, is to camouflage their goals. In an attempt to hide the fact that they are fascists and antisemites with a specific ideological and political agenda they state that their objective is to uncover historical falsehoods, all historical falsehoods." Deborah Lipstadt, Denying the Holocaust, p. 4
"There's a definite political agenda," she said. "This is not just Looney Tunes history. These are people who want to make national socialism respectable again. And how do you make a thoroughly discredited movement respectable? "First of all, you deal with moral equivalencies. You say, 'Oh yes, the Germans bombed London, but the Allies bombed Dresden. There were Bergen-Belsen and Auschwitz, but the Americans had camps for the Americans of Japanese descent.' But there's no moral equivalency for them to bring up about the Holocaust. So instead, they are left denying the Holocaust. And denying it in such a way that you almost hear them saying, 'It didn't happen, but it should have.'" Deborah Lipstadt, Los Angeles Times, 7 January 2000 |
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Independent historians are accused of following "a definite political agenda." Of course, Jewish individuals and groups do not have "a definite political agenda" when they seek to suppress opinions which differ from their own. The Jewish Holocaust has not been used to promote "a definite political agenda" in Palestine or anywhere else. The Jewish control of the financial system and the media is not the result of "a definite political agenda" but because Jews are such wonderful and loveable people. If the Holocaust had never happened, people would continue to deliver a large proportion of their wealth to world Jewry all the same because Jews are simply wonderful and loveable people. Germany and Switzerland would still pay billions in reparations, even if the Holocaust was exposed as a myth. So it should be plain to all that Jews do not have "a definite political agenda" when they penalize those who "deny the Holocaust." For if any mean-spirited "neo-Nazi" starts asking awkward questions he will be destroyed, socially, financially and judicially. This is not because Jews are following "a definite political agenda" but merely because they are wonderful and loveable people. What is most interesting is that world Jewry fights "neo-Nazis" with such energy and dogged determination when everybody knows that National Socialism was an evil system which was completely destroyed. No sane person could have sympathy for Adolf Hitler and his vicious programme when they can embrace God's "Chosen People" instead, for they are simply wonderful and loveable people. Perhaps this is because "neo-Nazi" is really a euphemism for the Jews’ greatest fear -- a renewal of Christianity, and a growing number of people heeding our Redeemer's words about the true nature of these wonderful and loveable people.
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| "Given this accurate version of reality it is all the more clear why his activites must be curtailed, and why his alleged legitimacy must be eradicated." From a secret report about David Irving commissioned by the Board of Deputies of British Jews, 1996 |
Maguire, 20 July 2001, on David Irving in the High Court:
Her Majesty's ZOG Courts would still have found for Lipstadt. What else did David or anyone else expect them to say at this point in Y2K and 2001? "Well, ha ha ha, you're right David. You finally got us! Huh huh huh! The Hoaxaco$t is a lie. We dispossessed millions of Palestinians on false premises. We looted and despoiled Germany based on false guilt and hanged hundreds of men at Nuremburg based on kangaroo court proceedings. And we pissed away the entire British Empire, killed 850,000 white citizens of the British Empire and ten millions of white Germans, firebombed Hamburg and Dresden, turned over half of Europe to Judeo-Communists and all for the benefit of lying racist Jews who secretly despise us. We also brought a flood of muds into Britain to torment white citizens simply to try to appease insatiable Jewish ravings for race mixing." If they were to make any announcement approximating this by even 25% the entire British ruling class would all be hanged on trees within the month starting with the Queen. And they know this. |
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I am a baby Aryan Not Jewish or sectarian I have no plans to marry an Ape or Rastafarian. |